{"id":1375,"date":"2010-05-22T16:00:55","date_gmt":"2010-05-22T23:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/?p=1375"},"modified":"2010-06-19T15:55:44","modified_gmt":"2010-06-19T22:55:44","slug":"the-we-in-weather","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/2010\/05\/the-we-in-weather\/","title":{"rendered":"the we in weather"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>NICK LAWRENCE \/ BEYOND CAN BE OUR MODEL<br \/>\nLisa Robertson. The Weather. Vancouver: New Star Books, 2001.<br \/>\nEcopoetics 1<\/p>\n<p>What are you trying to say? <\/p>\n<p>I often ask this about poems, but I don&#8217;t want to ask this of reviews. I like reviews because they illuminate poems. <\/p>\n<p>Pronouns are fascinating in poetry. I can see that &#8220;we&#8221; is a big element of Lisa Robertson&#8217;s &#8220;The Weather.&#8221; But I&#8217;m not entirely illuminated. <\/p>\n<p>I am charmed by John Ashbery&#8217;s use of &#8220;we&#8221; but I&#8217;m not sure I could write about how it works. Attempt: it is a group of eccentric individuals, vaguely sad and disappointed and somewhat slapstick. They float a bit above the ground. It is not a very big group, and it&#8217;s possible they have family ties. They don&#8217;t have a collective belief system or a politics, and I would not describe them as a &#8220;sangha.&#8221; I wonder how Lisa Robertson&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8221; compares. <\/p>\n<p>If &#8220;The Weather&#8221; is: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>a probing investigation of the resources available for contemporary poetic community<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>shouldn&#8217;t I know what those resources were after I read it? (asking as someone in contemporary poetic community, although my we would be yet another we, I think). <\/p>\n<p>Robertson&#8217;s we &#8220;implicitly critiques the individualism so often ascribed to Robertson\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s most important poetic predecessors, the weather-obsessed Romantics.&#8221; In other words, we wandered lonely as a bunch of clouds. <\/p>\n<p>Robertson&#8217;s we is also political, bringing collective movements into the haze. <\/p>\n<p>Robertson&#8217;s we is also communally ideologically delusional. Aren&#8217;t we all. Is there an examination of that delusion? I&#8217;d like to know. I think I might also be in that delusional we, but it&#8217;s hard to tell. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It &#8230; emerges, under the poet\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s scrutiny, as a kind of national rhetoric bent on effacing its own rhetorical traces, thus a prime example of stylistic ideology.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Is that possible? <\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, Robertson&#8217;s we is interested in &#8220;the affirmation of excess, ornament, wit, desire, extravagance of diction, and indeed the subversive pleasures of description and sincerity themselves.&#8221; Lawrence contrasts this affirmation with the delusional aspect. If they are both there, I&#8217;m not convinced they can operate separately. Maybe this is the source of tension that drives the poem. <\/p>\n<p>Lawrence quotes Robertson: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>More and more poetry is becoming for me the urgent description of complicity and delusional space. The description squats within a grammar because there is no other site. Therefore the need for the urgent and incommensurate hopes of accomplices.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>These accomplices: a troubled collectivity. Is this also a delusion? I don&#8217;t think the poet can manufacture a collectivity. Even by hopefully launching dedications toward a you at the end. <\/p>\n<p>Online: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dcpoetry.com\/anthology\/241\" target=\"_blank\">the We in &#8220;Wednesday&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NICK LAWRENCE \/ BEYOND CAN BE OUR MODEL Lisa Robertson. The Weather. Vancouver: New Star Books, 2001. Ecopoetics 1 What are you trying to say? I often ask this about poems, but I don&#8217;t&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1375","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ecopoetics","category-volume-1"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1375","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1375"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1375\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1468,"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1375\/revisions\/1468"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1375"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1375"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gemtactics.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1375"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}